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Right, so I'm a newbie when it comes to Dynasty Warriors and Warriors Orochi. I've never played any of those games, but I'm interested...
The problem is, I don't know where to start.
It would be most awesome if there was a really good DW or WO game for the PS3, but it seems that I'm not gonna have such luck. Dynasty Warriors 6 got dreadful scores in most reviews and there is no Warriors Orochi game for the PS3 yet.
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So, what should I do?
Buy something for the PS2? Wait for Dynasty Warriors 6 Empires and Warriors Orochi Z? Or maybe Dynasty Warriors 6 isn't as awful as the critics say?
Plz, people U gots to halp meh!
Sho-saka
31-01-09, 11:02 PM
Well, I've got one piece of advice to give to you...
...whatever you do, ignore what the crictics have told you about the games and just try it out for yourself. You'll be surprised if you enjoy playing the game, rather than just looking and jumping to conclusions about them. And if you did, but didn't like it, then...erm...I'm sorry about that.
Uh, thanks...
I think I still need to be convinced a bit moar.
God-Like Phoenix
31-01-09, 11:53 PM
Well, I think if you want to just get to know the story and the characters and how they fit in...I would think that DW5 would be a good choice, as it has a large array of characters, and they all have there own story. If you already know the story and characters, and just want something good to play, perhaps DW6:Empires could be a good choice, or WO:Z when it come out.
The reviews that the Dynasty Warriors series get are done by people who are under the assumption that all games that Koei make are the same, only with a few additions, and also that they are people also, with their own likes and dislikes in a game, so they might not like it, but dont let that put you off :) just try one and make a judgment for yourself
If you have PS3/360, and want a bit more strategy, or a different storyline, why not try out BLADESTORM? its a fun game, you can trust me on that one :)
Yyyyyeah... okay... Well, I think I'll have to wait for the next DW and WO games and see how they look.
silvertongue
01-02-09, 10:11 AM
I'd say WO (as you have the DW characters, SW characters plus the new Orochi Characters). I'd actually say that WO2 is one of my favourite Warriors games followed closely by DW5 & DW5Empires. To be honest though i like all the Warriors games in one way or another.
The critics tend to say that they are reptitive which to be fair they are BUT they forget to metion that they have various objections to fill. All of these objections are not always necessary to complete the current level you're playing but they do add more startegy to the game.
I don't let critics dictate what games i should buy anymore. I used to read reviews and if they had a bad review i would generally avoid the game. However now if there's a game that i'm interested in i will read the review and still buy the game regardless of what the review says.
Also Bladestorm (as God-Like Phoenix mentioned) is another gem of a little game. Different storyline, more startegy, nice looking game and easy to get into.
Bladestorm is one of Koei underrated little gems.
:)
LittleDragonZ
01-02-09, 10:34 AM
To be honest I think SW2 and DW5 would be the best place to start due to them having their own story and what they're suppose to be based on. You should only really go into the WO series if you don't care less on the background and want a large amount of characters to choose from. For a begginner I think this would be a bad choice to put you off the character roster and trying the other games out.
The Empires and XL games you would only like if you like DW5 and SW2. XL (Xtreme Legends) expands on SW2's and DW5's story modes and a bit more diversity with the likes of CAW (create a warrior) and the like. Whereas Empires is like total freedom and has very little thought into what happened in their respective time periods. It's literally for the fans to command and give orders till their hearts content. So many, like me for instance, can find these ones to grow quite tiresome quickly, I prefer to be drawn into more of the story personally.
You could, if for example, you only wanted one of the two, base your choice on the music. SW tends to be more instrumental and DW a lot more louder with guitars and drums, etc. There's plenty of music videos on YouTube just to give you an example. I'm more of a SW music fan, but I prefer the DW series in general. The tracks in SW I fined are more catchy and memorable. You may want to try popular songs like Okehazama, Odawara, Osaka, Komaki-Nagakute and Tadakatsu Honda's own song.
DW6 could be a good place to start for newcomers. It really hurt the fans because it rewinded many things that we loved, so those who have no idea what they were, this would be a great choice. Try looking for these tunes -Ignition, Oriental Rush, A Great Giant, Welcome to China and my favorite - Gain Momentum.
Edit: If you want more advice, feel free to PM me and I'll glady go to more depth.
Oh goodie, finally some personal opinions and deeper explanation! Thanks guys.
So Dynasty Warriors 6 is a good choice for someone who wants something for the PS3, but doesn't have a romantic relationship with the previous games... Samurai Warriors 2 and Dynasty Warriors 5 is a good place to start if you want to develop a romantic relationship with the Warriors games, but don't mind the PS2 platform... And Warriors Orochi is good for those who want ****tons of characters (and don't mind the PS2-business).
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Wow, this is a tough decision... Tons of characters sounds tempting... Developing a romantic relationship with a new game series sounds tempting as well, I'd love to be able to be a part of this Warriors cult... Unfortunately the PS2 is a huge turn-off for me atm... So right now I'm feeling DW6 the most...
Tell you what! I'll see about buying Dynasty Warriors 6! If I like it, I might get DW5 and SW2. And I'll keep an eye out for Warriors Orochi Z. Does this sound like a good plan or what?
Leady FF ^^
01-02-09, 11:43 AM
I definately think its better to get one of the 'core' games like DW5 or DW6 at first - since if you get Empires without knowing the basics it can seem very confusing.
My advice is that since u like fighting games (well your sig. is KOF I think), youll prefer WO series than DW6. Since WO series has got the most complete movesets and combat options. The renbu thing can be abit restrictive if you want to create your own combos and juggle etc. Also the grapple moves are really hard to use compared the characters that have them in WO. Plus in WO you have the 'Tech' characters who have even more move-set options.
For me I really like WO series as it has the most choice of characters and for me the best combat options.
LittleDragonZ
01-02-09, 11:45 AM
Look at some YouTube videos of DW6 if you haven't already. But yes DW6 would be a good choice since you have a PS3, and the game only damaged the fans since they were expecting more than DW5, and didn't get.
Personally music is an essential part of wanting to replay levels or whathaveya. The Yellow Turban Rebellion (first real stage for many) to me was very fast paced due to it being quite short and the music track Ignition being just awesome. It felt like an exciting way to kick-start.
And for your knowledge the SW series combat physics go to more depth due to them coming out after. So SW2 will have more functions than DW5. Just like hopefully SW3 will have compared to DW6.
On further inspection, if you want my opinion of which to choose, it'd be SW2 or DW6. And if you like DW6, go to SW2, then whatever else after.
Insp. Chin
01-02-09, 12:07 PM
Dynasty Warriors 6/5 is good for newbie in my opinion but not good for those existed hardcore DW fans (especially for DW6). It's because DW6/5 has a good story telling and easy combat system, once you get to know more about this Three Kingdoms story, you can move on to SW2 which has a little bit more complicated system like stages with castle, 2nd floor, and some special attacks.
Then when you played both of those games and know briefly the story, the stages, get used to the map, special attack, running up to the castle in many floor, then you can move on to Warriors Orochi as it's a cross-over and have those things you learned.
DW5/6 - story and learn the basic system + story telling + decide whether you like it or not
SW2 - more special attacks + stages + castle + story telling
WO - Everything and what you need to learn is the Weapon Fusion, Weapon Upgrade + VS game play
So if you start everything in WO you might get confused and found it a lot complicated then simply just gave up the game like Jsun lol! That's just my opinion ^^"
First thing to learn in Warriors games: Sweeping the floor, clearing all the dirts out and be the hero. (Courtesy of Leady FF ^^)
Leady FF ^^
01-02-09, 12:16 PM
exactly and DWG2 is the ultimate 'tidy-up your room now Chin!!' game!!
Insp. Chin
01-02-09, 12:20 PM
exactly and DWG2 is the ultimate 'tidy-up your room now Chin!!' game!!
I need to show you something in the office tomorrow! (not DWG2) but it's the game which you can have 50 KOs in 1 second for a super dash :D
LittleDragonZ
01-02-09, 12:25 PM
DW Gundam is more for Gundam fans or fans from DW/SW who want to test it out. I don't think many would randomly pick it up.
To the topic creator, unless you love robots you won't like this, but perhaps only by loving the DW/SW series. And if you want to start with the Gundam series, number 2 is a huge improvement! So get that!
Anyway, I still think either DW6/SW2 is the best place to start. Warriors Orochi will throw you straight into the deep end and you'll get bored after a while without any fanbased power in you.
Yeah, no Gundam for me plz... I don't watch anime and I have this policy not to play anime games since I don't know what the hell they're about.
I'm going with DW6 'cause it's on the PS3 and 'cause you people said it would be a reasonably good place to start from.
Alonzo Orion
01-02-09, 08:26 PM
I strongly recommend Kessen II if you can get hold of it, it's a strategy three kingdom related game and by far the most unique.
I don't think Kessen II would tickle my fancy... .(
Leady FF ^^
02-02-09, 09:04 PM
I need to show you something in the office tomorrow! (not DWG2) but it's the game which you can have 50 KOs in 1 second for a super dash
OK awesome. I hope the snow will clear then so that I can see this!
Destrega and nothing else...
Just start with DW2 and play the first level and He Fei castle. Then play DW3 for a bit and skip to DW4: Empires or DW5: Empires. Avoid WO series like the plague. It's for fan girls.....and fan girls. Warriors Orochi is like a yaoi fan girl's dream come true.
I think the person who decided to make the WO series must have been dreaming about having a threesome or something with Zhao Yun, Yukimura Sanada, and some snake dude. It would explain the weird character system.
Gischie
03-02-09, 06:29 PM
exactly and DWG2 is the ultimate 'tidy-up your room now Chin!!' game!!
WTF especially if you pick Master asia? LOL
no I adviced SW2 because it's fresh and also easy to play or DW6 because you have nothing to regret, you don't know the older version!
Destrega and nothing else...
Just start with DW2 and play the first level and He Fei castle. Then play DW3 for a bit and skip to DW4: Empires or DW5: Empires. Avoid WO series like the plague. It's for fan girls.....and fan girls. Warriors Orochi is like a yaoi fan girl's dream come true.
I think the person who decided to make the WO series must have been dreaming about having a threesome or something with Zhao Yun, Yukimura Sanada, and some snake dude. It would explain the weird character system.That's harsh, harsh text my friend. And since I'm not a fan of any Warrirors series yet, this is kinda unnecessary.
Go easy on the ranting and stick with the facts.
64crayons
20-02-09, 01:26 AM
sw2 is an awsome game but as many other people have said dw6 is great for a newcomer into the dw series, though it can be a dissapointment to fans it is still a fun game and your best shot
IMO, I didn't really like DW6, at all. But there are alotta people out there that liked it so don't let that discourage you.
DW4, if you managed to find, I believe is the best DW game ever released actually. Not only the gameplay is fun, but the designs are mind blowing and the Kingdom Musuo is pretty awesome.
DW3 is even better to start since it's harder and that everyone got their own stories, DW5 got that but I didn't like the few amount of stages in it.
WO is all around a perfect series thus far, but not really recommended if you don't know anything about DW, you might get confused and ruin your history education XD
Gischie
23-02-09, 05:19 PM
sw2 is an awsome game but as many other people have said dw6 is great for a newcomer into the dw series, though it can be a dissapointment to fans it is still a fun game and your best shot
I think for a newbie, SW2 sounds a bit complex, but as I said before and said it now again, the best it's to try like everybody the DW3!!!!!
-_- but DW6 why not except you might not like the older ones or find them too complicated lol (you have to press Triangle and Square lol)
little_zhurong
07-04-09, 10:23 PM
For a Newbie I would recommend DW5 it has more a story and you understand all the characters in more detail instead of just a few. However if you want to buy a PS3 game buy DW3 before empires sometimes items and things are transferred over. Its still a good game and you learn about the main characters.
I just brought OW2 because it sound cool and LittleDragonZ mentioned it. (Thank you littleDragonZ) I didn't even know it existed. I got it so that I could break into the SW games. I haven't played SW and didn't if they were any good. This way I find out who the characters are and what move sets they have (I hope).
I think it depends on the individual to which game they should play. I like China’s History so the DW were perfect for me plus I played a demo before hand.
LittleDragonZ
10-04-09, 11:11 PM
You're welcome. I hope you're enjoying it, little_zhurong? And of course it's good to have a go with the Samurai Warriors lot, the combat is similar in the sense of the game mechanics and the like. Like what you do and what you have.
If you like one, there's a high chance you'll like the other. :)
64crayons
11-04-09, 03:41 AM
I think for a newbie, SW2 sounds a bit complex, but as I said before and said it now again, the best it's to try like everybody the DW3!!!!!
-_- but DW6 why not except you might not like the older ones or find them too complicated lol (you have to press Triangle and Square lol)
its not complex, its one of koei's best games
Anyone new to the series should go and buy DW6. It by far has the best gameplay in a Warriors title so far, and they wouldn't have the unrealistic belief of a game requiring to have 48 story modes to make it good. I honestly find the amount of Musou modes in Dynasty Warriors 6 more then enough, there are plenty of targets (and achievements for X360) users to achieve as well to extend it's life and challenges.
And it's just a real joy to play, awesome interactive, somewhat strategic hackn' slash fun!
LittleDragonZ
11-04-09, 01:26 PM
I would be lying if I said DW6 was the best. You know what I think of 3, Fayt. But 6 lacked movesets it could've had and especially the amount of stages 5 had to offer. 6 only has 19 IIRC. And apart from that and not being able to try more charge attacks out (the games have always heavily relied on charges), 6 is a great spot for newcomers for the fact they don't know.
Ugh... well they do now lol...
6 is a great spot for newcomers for the fact they don't know.
That is one point I was trying to make, and it's something we might just have to get used to with future Warriors games. I really don't know if we'll see 48 individual (yet similar) Musou modes again.
But also, if you are new to the series you'd want to pick up something with the latest gameplay, mechanics and detail. Once you get used to next gen games it's hard to go back to older ones unless you are already a fan of the older game/series.
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